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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 8:15am

Peter Joseph - History of Economic Thought - Z-Day, 2013

This is the second talk of eleven, from The Zeitgeist Movement's flagship, 5th Annual "Zeitgeist Day", 2013 Main Event, held in Los Angeles CA on March 17th. ( 33:10 )


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Thursday, March 28th 2013, 11:21pm

So Nomada and All

You're not gonna believe this but attached is the transcript of this superb lecture straight from Peter! We don't need to re-create it from scratch! I got it just by politely asking him. Now I should explain this text was ripped straight from Peter's pdf-ized slideware, then I did a quick reduction pass, separating the slide text from the lecture text, and the simple unformatted text result is attached.


Note a couple things:
  1. It is absolutely not proofread! This is Peter's own raw composition, composed quickly no doubt, and he himself of course did not need to refine it to perfection, he just needed it to be good enough to lecture with. You will see that it has bits of typos and punctuation errors itself (let alone ad-libs, see point 2), so please don't think it all can be just blindly cut & pasted into the subs, you should review each string first and compare it to what Peter is actually saying (which of course overrides). That said, it is still much much better than starting from scratch!
  2. When you compare Peter's written words with what he actually ends up speaking, it provides amazing insight into the fact that Peter does a huge amount of ad-libing, even of his own material! This in turn gives us better understanding of how a word can slip here and there by Peter or anyone, and it's OK. So downstream in subtitle land we don't need to kill ourselves over every uncertain word as we sometimes do.

In closing, for those that didn't catch my FB post, I am really excited about this vid! To quote: "Peter deftly and adroitly (as usual) picks apart accepted mainstream economic theory and its evolution over history, along with all its recognized thought leaders, and reduces it all to rubble!" Yes Peter has done this in the past across multiple lectures, but never IMO so clearly and in such an in-depth and concise way as in this little 33-minute compact bomb! Let's do this!


PS: Also as per my post I'd like PR2 on this!
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Saturday, April 6th 2013, 7:09pm

Never mind on my post just now: Nattka has half-started this and so can run with it. I'll move on to Jen's lecture instead.



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Saturday, April 6th 2013, 7:51pm

Never mind on my post just now: Nattka has half-started this and so can run with it. I'll move on to Jen's lecture instead.



Nattka: plz confirm here as per our skype chat just now.


Confirming! As this is only my second transcription, nevertheless I promise to do my best. ;)

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Wednesday, April 10th 2013, 6:38pm

Transcription is done and ready for the 1st round of proofreading. DotSub shows 94% completeness, though the end of subtitles was set at 33:09. Hope this could be fixed by more sophisticated Ninjas and advanced tools. 8)

There are two moments I'm not sure about, which I put in Notes. And PJ's notes themselves were a really great help. Thanks for sharing, Mr.B! :)

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Thursday, April 11th 2013, 8:40am

Nice : ) This project is pending Proofreading round 1 (P1)
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EDIT: not being able to move it to the Eng.Proofing section in the forum. We can always pretend it is there until we solve this :D
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Friday, April 12th 2013, 8:31pm

Alright, I've got time for this just now, here's hoping your forum issues can get resolved soon :)

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Friday, April 12th 2013, 11:39pm

Finished R1 proofreading. That seemed to me to be quite a close transcription, and shouldn't need a great deal of timeshifting. One point for Nattka to note is the use of hyphens in the English Transcription Guidelines; we have reserved free hyphens to indicate a brief change of speaker within a dialogue, and so small out-of-sequence comments (like this one) are put in parentheses, while different fragments of a sentence or argument, especially where indicated by distinct pauses in speech, are separated by commas.
Overall though, I'd like to express thanks for PJ's provision of notes and Nattka's excellent work for making this part easy :cheer:

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Saturday, April 13th 2013, 12:18am

Well OK, since we're mixing it up a little bit, I'll take timeshifting!
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Monday, May 6th 2013, 12:25pm

OK, both timestamp shifting is complete, and also PR2 as far as I am concerned (again, I was on a roll), revised SRT is pushed out to the working location, and the analysis file is attached.

As usual, the piece has a dearth of long lines which can't be helped because of Peter's dense content. But that said, it came out pretty well.
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