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Monday, July 18th 2011, 6:05pm

Zeitgeist: Moving Forward

Guys, I'm proofreading ZMF right now and I reached a point where Mc Murtry says the following ( 55:28 ) :


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We just want to go on. You know that's what insanity is, where you keep doing the same thing over and over again


but we transcribed it as :

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We just want to go on. You know that's where insanity is, where you keep doing the same thing over and over again


This might look harmless, but a French translator translated it as "where" and the sentence looses its impact.

It's meant to be translated as (in my opinion) : "This is insanity by definition, where you keep doing the same thing over and over again."


[EDIT] : again I'm bickoring, but at 57:01

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This is due to the fact that the market system requires that “cost efficiency” or the need to reduce expenses exists at every stage of production.


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This is due to the fact that the market system requires that “cost efficiency” or the need to reduce expenses exist at every stage of production.


You have an addition of elements, the verb shouldn't be in singular form. (That's the way it is in French, at least :D ), and Peter doesn't add an 's' either
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Monday, July 18th 2011, 7:26pm

Cheers! :) Checked it - you are right. It didn't affect Rus translation though, but really appreciate this as sometimes small mistakes can lead to totally different translation.
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Tuesday, July 19th 2011, 6:02am

Nice catch for the first one, but the second is grammatically correct, even if PJ didn't vocalize it properly. This does NOT mean that it is also correct grammar for other languages, however. :huh:

This is due to the fact that the market system requires that “cost efficiency” or [exclusive, not inclusive, conjunction] the need [subject] to reduce expenses exists [third person singular present verb] at every stage of production.

The conjunction 'or' used above points to one OR the other, so this is not an addition of elements. Rather, it's a choice between two phrases (cost efficiency vs. the need to reduce expenses). In this light, one OR the other 'exists'.

Having said all of that, I'd REALLY like to have Di's thoughts on this, since she's the English Teacher around here. ^^
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Tuesday, July 19th 2011, 4:14pm

That all the agents are self-maximizing preferences seekers. (1:07:43)

Do we need the "s" at the end of preferences ?
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Friday, July 22nd 2011, 12:30pm

1:50:58 : is based upon on a set of true economic mechanisms, or 'strategies'

We can say goodbye to the "on" :)
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Friday, July 22nd 2011, 1:05pm

2:03:49 that runs the cities technical operations.

Have to add an apostrophe to cities
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Friday, July 22nd 2011, 1:49pm

from 2:12:23, when PJ is interrupted by a "troller", why do we put what he says in brackets ? I think we should use the convention in the guidelines, which says that a non visible speaker should be preceded by his name, or function, in brackets.

Same goes for the announcer that talks about PJs heart attack
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Saturday, July 23rd 2011, 1:38pm

Hi!
Are any of these changes already applied to ZMF English transcript? Shell I do it?
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Saturday, July 23rd 2011, 5:48pm

OK this one needs some reviewing :
John McMurtry talking, 2:17:45, here's how I'd phrase it

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A governing syntax of understanding and of value
so that it governs beneath their own recognition of it.
So They may not say: 'Oh, I didn't mean that at all!'


I'd remove the second "so" because they tend to use "So" and "And" way to often at the beginning of sentences, and this influences translators in their translations, as you know....

2:18:54 "and hence, every government- is for sale."
no need for a hyphen after government

2:19:19 The blind conditioning that politics and politicians

2:21:55 when it comes to the systematic

2:25:24 and to maybe do something with tide...

2:27:42 How could you possibly have built your economy

2:30:05 whereby 2030 there might be over 8 billion people on this planet.
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Friday, July 29th 2011, 9:41am

Regarding the new speakers, I thought we were still putting a hyphen infront of the new voice. If we write a name or use brackets, it takes up more characters and space.
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Friday, July 29th 2011, 12:07pm

There's that, Vixi, but a deaf person can't identify the speaker, thus the name in brackets
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Friday, November 25th 2011, 10:02am

I've corrected the errors we mentioned on the working location, but not on the Repo yet. I'm gonna use this opportunity to remove lone periods as strings out of the translations since there aren't that many (translations).
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Monday, June 25th 2012, 2:28pm

07:43-07:46 Since that time，I have watched humanity


The comma is floating ~_~
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Thursday, July 12th 2012, 11:31am

55:44-55:47 [The Anti-Economy]

All other titles in [ ] also have spaces separating them from the [ ], so this one should follow the same rule and be [ The Anti-Economy ], right?
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Sunday, November 18th 2012, 6:25pm

A viewer on YouTube commented on our French ZMF upload and I realized the typo is present in the English transcript as well.

At 45:35, McMurtry says "god is immanent" not imminent (which doesn't make sense)
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